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Stiller said...
When the SEC looked to add teams, it went for schools that could add tv regions not already held. Thus, Mizz and Tex region. FSU does not add value to the SEC in that terms, would not lead to a more lucrative tv deal. Also, UF and USC were reported to have denied the inclusion because it would hurt in the recruiting department and not add value to their own programs. Virgina Tech was an ACC school that had a better chance of becoming a SEC school. The benefits for the SEC to take FSU and Clemson are less than the perceived negatives
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SwoNole9 said...
Logically - yes.
But in reality, has that been the difference in recruiting rankings / getting prospects over the last five years? You are assuming that FSU would recruit at a HIGHER level than UF if FSU was let into the SEC, no? I'm not sure how much higher FSU can recruit though, because both are recruiting at the highest level around the country...
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libgator said...
I'm assuming no such thing. Why would we want to make our job on the trail any harder and yours any easier? There is no doubt that a lot of elite talent wants to play somewhere they can win championships. FSU has done well in recruiting because Jimbo has promised those championships to recruits and the media blows smoke up your ass every year before an ACC nobody brings you all back to reality. How much longer are kids going to be deluded into attending your clown college as you fail to deliver the goods?
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SwoNole9 said...
I think you're still missing the point - the recruiting job would remain relatively the same; I don't see FSU benefiting THAT much from inclusion with the SEC. Not trying to get into a p!ssing match, but have a REASONABLE conversation...
This post was edited by libgator on 11/19/2012 at 12:05 PM
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secrocks2000 said...
FSU is already getting great recruits, the SEC would help a little but it's not like they are in desperate need to get recruits, they had the #1 class last year. It would help FSU with recruiting but not significantly, they are going to get theirs and UF is going to get ours.
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SwoNole9 said...
Logically - yes.
But in reality, has that been the difference in recruiting rankings / getting prospects over the last five years? You are assuming that FSU would recruit at a HIGHER level than UF if FSU was let into the SEC, no? I'm not sure how much higher FSU can recruit though, because both are recruiting at the highest level around the country...
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Stiller said...
When the SEC looked to add teams, it went for schools that could add tv regions not already held. Thus, Mizz and Tex region. FSU does not add value to the SEC in that terms, would not lead to a more lucrative tv deal. Also, UF and USC were reported to have denied the inclusion because it would hurt in the recruiting department and not add value to their own programs. Virgina Tech was an ACC school that had a better chance of becoming a SEC school. The benefits for the SEC to take FSU and Clemson are less than the perceived negatives
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secrocks2000 said...
TAMU was never supposed to leave the Big 12 but they got mad at UT and now they are flourishing. If the ACC keeps on losing teams do you think the president, fans, and boosters of VT, UVA, NCST, or UNC or going to want to stay in the ACC? No way, they are smart people and are going to want to go where the best athletics and money is, whether that is the SEC or another conference. The ACC is falling fast, every other conference is adding teams while the ACC is losing teams and adding shitty teams.
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Toddlee2455 said...
I've heard Clay Travis and the guys in Nashville mention a few times that the SEC offered FSU a spot a decade ago or so. Not sure of the exact timeframe. FSU decided not to jump because they liked being in a conference without UF. That has been talked about pretty extensively.
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mbocagator said...
I agree that I would rather that FSU is in the SEC playing the teams we play...however, it would move Missouri to the west and add Clemson and FSU to the east...the east would be a bear of a division !
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