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the program being broken had much more to do with the environment our program was in that last year with Urban and the first year Muschamp was here rather than our actual records.

Urban always recruited the highly touted players no matter how big their ego's were because he was a players coach and he was confident enough in himself that he could control them. He had guys like Tebow and Spikes who not only were great football players but natural born leaders that had guys that had zero in common with them ready to run through walls for them. So those guys kept that team together.

Once they were both gone that team began falling apart and fast. Even in seniors parting shots they mentioned how the direction of the program that last year under meyer wasn't very clear to the players.

Like Luke pointed out, that '10 class that Urban recruited might have been his best on paper but was by far his worst in terms of ego's and entitlement issues.

Honestly having to deal with that '10 class would have driven most coaches to the brink of retirement

What urban did at UF we will forever be grateful for and I think that is what you OSU people are stuck on. You think we don't appreciate the good things urban brought to UF and harp on that calling us spoiled...not true in the least. But the way Urban left this program....it needed a remodeling job bad in terms of cleaning out the ego's.

When urban was on top he was the best coach in the country, but with those championships came unrealistic expectations he put on himself and made him into a coaching machine that had no off switch and his family and health suffered because of that. An hour after Urban had won his 2nd NC he went into a room and immediately started contacting recruits. The guy became obsessed with being a coach and needed to take a step back...but honestly didn't know how

I wish him all the best and am an urban fan, but even the biggest UF/Urban homer can admit that that team he fielded in his last yr was a mess. Especially when the rumors began coming out about the way the upperclassman and underclassman were divided and how there was no team unity or any team pride. Everyone was out for themselves and honestly Urban cared so much for a lot of those guys like Dunkley, Janoris etc. that I don't think he would have had the heart(no pun intended) to kick them to the curb even though thats what the team needed....to get rid of those guys who showed up to practice once or twice a week or skipped workouts and meetings because they got away with it with urban and he was right down the hall in his own office now(at the time) and if muschamp yelled at them or punished them they could just run and cry to urban.

Man I need to subscribe to OSU's site cuz they obviously know more then anybody else about the Florida Gators football program

Can't wait to get my 30 day free trial on

Do you guys honestly believe Muschamp won't have any disciplinary issues with his players at Florida?

I don't think "broken" is the right term. Broken insinuates something worse than we were. Our program was in trouble and needed a remedy, but we didn't need to be rebuilt. We weren't facing major sanctions, we weren't losing tons of money or support, we were still bringing in good classes, still had a lot of fan support, and were in transition from coaches and coordinators.

Well he did kick Jenoris Jenkins off the team before he played a single down for Muschamp, so yes......

LOL so true!

If we are going off of your logic than Zook won us the 06 NC right? They were his players.

Nope there will ALWAYS be disciplinary issues at UF and every major d1 football program

the amount of issues is a different story.

It's kind of like Gator fans thinking Meyer first started coaching when he got to Florida.

As if people from Ohio had never heard of Meyer before he got to Gainesville.

Well, he never lost to a Big East team in a BCS bowl game.

Muschamp doin' work on that front, son.

look at what urban left for muschamp on offense lol it was a disaster and if not for muschamp being one hell of a defensive coach we dont go 11-2 this yr

seriously urban left the offense with nothing

these idiots really are trying to credit meyer for what muschamp did this yr lol wow

How you guys could ever talk about Florida is amazing. All we do is beat your ass everytime we play dude.

I said it as early as last summer, I would not be shocked if they hung 06 & 08 NC Banners in the OSU stadium