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IwearGators said...
Ineteresting how Utah is 4-5 in the Pac-12. Funny how teams who join a real conference see a difference in their win loss record. No more undefeated seasons for Utah. After several years of crying about being left out.
FSU and Miami during the 80's never played in a conference and were able to run wild. They only had to get up for a few games a year and play against teams that did not see them every year. Even the pathetic ACC causes Miami and FSU to stumble.
Miami was loaded with lots of NFL players but it was a big advantage.
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you serious clark?
do you not remember us wrecking the entire acc for the entire 90s?
also we played Notre Dame, Miami, UF, Nebraska, Auburn, Ohio State and a bunch of other good teams out of conference multiple times and miami and UF every single year as well. we had one of the best SOS of the 90s. nice try
It's all about the Orange and Blue.
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IwearGators said...
Why don't you list all the cream puffs you played too. FSU got up for 2 or 3 games ALL year.
Notre Dame beat you head to head that year. They gifted FSU because the media felt bad for BOBBY not getting a National title. Besides if Nebraska has a half way decent kicker they WIN that game.
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shoulda woulda coulda for ND though
the trick is to not lose the last game of the year against a horrible BC team(hope it happens tonight). we beat you guys while they lost to inferior competition. if it happened nowawadays the result would be the same.
dont even bring up kicing to an FSU fan. if wed had better kicking miami wouldnt have 5 MNCs and we probably would. let that marinate. the team who would have played us or miami in those games had no chance against either of our teams, we were 1a and 1b.
lets not mention the fact that you guys should NEVER have gone to the 1996 MNC game against us. that was worse than the bama LSU rematch last year. props to you guys for winning but rematches shouldnt happen like that ever
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Ineteresting how Utah is 4-5 in the Pac-12. Funny how teams who join a real conference see a difference in their win loss record. No more undefeated seasons for Utah. After several years of crying about being left out.
FSU and Miami during the 80's never played in a conference and were able to run wild. They only had to get up for a few games a year and play against teams that did not see them every year. Even the pathetic ACC causes Miami and FSU to stumble.
Miami was loaded with lots of NFL players but it was a big advantage.
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IwearGators said...
I LOVED the Notre Dame game. FSU ran its mouth all week and for 3 quarters Notre Dame kicked the sh@t out of FSU. Ran it right down their THROATS.
FSU didn't play in a conference in the 80's their great records were due to WEAK scheduling.
And the fact your on a Gator message board proves the FSU inferiority complex.
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you serious clark?
do you not remember us wrecking the entire acc for the entire 90s?
also we played Notre Dame, Miami, UF, Nebraska, Auburn, Ohio State and a bunch of other good teams out of conference multiple times and miami and UF every single year as well. we had one of the best SOS of the 90s. nice try
Wrecking the ACC in the 90's is like saying a grown man walks into a day care center and kicks over a kids lincoln logs. You shouldn't brag about it. FSU pussed out and went to a very weak conference so they could just yawn their way through the regular season. And just because you added Nebraska, Auburn, etc doesn't mean jack
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Ineteresting how Utah is 4-5 in the Pac-12. Funny how teams who join a real conference see a difference in their win loss record. No more undefeated seasons for Utah. After several years of crying about being left out.
FSU and Miami during the 80's never played in a conference and were able to run wild. They only had to get up for a few games a year and play against teams that did not see them every year. Even the pathetic ACC causes Miami and FSU to stumble.
Miami was loaded with lots of NFL players but it was a big advantage.
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You do know when FSU and Miami were independents we played anyone who wanted to play us. We had to also travel to those teams homes the majority of the times, and we would beat them putting our teams on the map nationally.
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You do know when FSU and Miami were independents we played anyone who wanted to play us. We had to also travel to those teams homes the majority of the times, and we would beat them putting our teams on the map nationally.
Beatings will continue until morale improves
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Why? The 80's pretty much put both teams on the map, because we traveled to other states a lot and were in the picture pretty much every year for the title.
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Because joining a conference didn't end your ability to compete. There are alot of reason that can be put forward for FSU's fall from the national elite but I don't think any of them have to do with joining a conference unless you put forward the fact that joining a weak conference eventually equaled FSU playing down to its competition which is completely adverse to the OP's assertion.
We can say that FSU downfall came from;
1. Bobby holding on too long. 2. Florida State getting too national with recruiting (OOS guys don't buy in as much) 3. Misses on the trail (chasing stars rather than needs) 4. Playing down to the ACC (not being tested, as well as losing to teams they shoudn't regularly) 5. The rise of Florida under Meyer 6. Lack of discipline under the late Bobby, as well as a divided leadership once Jimbo got there
There are others reason people could put forth with a well though out argument but I don't see joining the ACC because playing for a conference title against better competition as one of them.
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Because joining a conference didn't end your ability to compete. There are alot of reason that can be put forward for FSU's fall from the national elite but I don't think any of them have to do with joining a conference unless you put forward the fact that joining a weak conference eventually equaled FSU playing down to its competition which is completely adverse to the OP's assertion.
We can say that FSU downfall came from;
1. Bobby holding on too long. 2. Florida State getting too national with recruiting (OOS guys don't buy in as much) 3. Misses on the trail (chasing stars rather than needs) 4. Playing down to the ACC (not being tested, as well as losing to teams they shoudn't regularly) 5. The rise of Florida under Meyer 6. Lack of discipline under the late Bobby, as well as a divided leadership once Jimbo got there
There are others reason people could put forth with a well though out argument but I don't see joining the ACC because playing for a conference title against better competition as one of them.
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