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NCAA issues ultimatum to former Miami players

  • We all knew former canes wouldn't talk. Well the NCAA is tired of the stonewalling and issued an ultimatum to the former players that says if you don't talk to us by Friday we will consider that an admission of guilt.

    NoleBrave03

  • NoleBrave03 said...

    We all knew former canes wouldn't talk. Well the NCAA is tired of the stonewalling and issued an ultimatum to the former players that says if you don't talk to us by Friday we will consider that an admission of guilt.

    Ahhh shiii.

    Tracy Howard gonna look good in the O&B

    secrocks2000

  • Unless they envoke the penn state rule. Only juniors and seniors can transfer freely.

    NoleBrave03

  • NoleBrave03 said...

    Unless they envoke the penn state rule. Only juniors and seniors can transfer freely.

    Dangit, you are right. In that case no one is good enough on UM worth wanting.

    secrocks2000

  • From the Miami Herald

    NCAA gives ultimatum to players in UM investigation; Canes, Dolphins, Marlins, Heat chatter | Sports Buzz

    WEDNESDAY BUZZ COLUMN The NCAA has delivered a new and disturbing ultimatum to numerous former University of Miami football players: Either talk to us or we’ll believe Nevin Shapiro’s claims against you. The NCAA last week mailed a letter to former players that allegedly committed NCAA violations by accepting gifts...

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  • Luke I would love to hear your opinion on this since your from that area and have been around the Miami program in the past.

    NoleBrave03

  • If juniors next year can. I call dibs on Denzel perryman.

    NoleBrave03

  • NoleBrave03 said...

    Luke I would love to hear your opinion on this since your from that area and have been around the Miami program in the past.

    I'm not an NCAA fan (started early w/ Bruce Pearl & tape recordings that disappeared), but my initial reaction is this seems to be overstepping their bounds. I would like to know which former players they sent these letters to, because can you imagine a 32-33 year old who has been out of college 10 years and not a UM employee getting this kind of ultimatum? Not talking equals guilt seems like the easy road out for the NCAA.

    It seems obvious some (or a lot) infractions took place during the past three staff's time at UM. NCAA needs to find proof in the cases they are able and punish for those. I don't know the full details on who the letters were sent to though, so maybe recent grads who were just out of school before the investigation started.

    As far as punishment and bouncing back from it, I felt with USC, as I do at UM or UF or FSU or Texas or similar schools with talent in their backyard, the right coach/staff can eventually overcome it. It won't be overnight, there will be very lean years, but I think it's possible to overcome in those locales with the right staff.

    I keep hearing the punishment will be bad, but won't come until after NSD.

    This post was edited by Luke Stampini on 11/20/2012 at 11:28 PM

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  • You should see the mayhem going down on the Cane boards....

    everyone is either like panic

    or like flex "I'm an internet tough guy and I'm going to sue the NCAA"

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  • Luke Stampini said...

    I'm not an NCAA fan (started early w/ Bruce Pearl & tape recordings that disappeared), but my initial reaction is this seems to be overstepping their bounds. I would like to know which former players they sent these letters to, because can you imagine a 32-33 year old who has been out of college 10 years and not a UM employee getting this kind of ultimatum? Not talking equals guilt seems like the easy road out for the NCAA.

    It seems obvious some (or a lot) infractions took place during the past three staff's time at UM. NCAA needs to find proof in the cases they are able and punish for those. I don't know the full details on who the letters were sent to though, so maybe recent grades who were just out of school before the investigation started.

    As far as punishment and bouncing back from it, I felt with USC, as I do at UM or UF or FSU or Texas or similar schools with talent in their backyard, the right coach/staff can eventually overcome it. It won't be overnight, there will be very lean years, but I think it's possible to overcome in those locales with the right staff.

    I keep hearing the punishment will be bad, but won't come until after NSD.

    My question are these being sent to EVERY player named in the investigation or just players that they have uncovered alot of dirt on during the investigation? If its just certain players then I dont see the problem. Now if its EVERY player, then the fact that they can do this scares the hell out of me as a college football fan.

    NoleBrave03

  • NoleBrave03 said...

    My question are these being sent to EVERY player named in the investigation or just players that they have uncovered alot of dirt on during the investigation? If its just certain players then I dont see the problem. Now if its EVERY player, then the fact that they can do this scares the hell out of me as a college football fan.

    I don't know and the article doesn't really tell us either. If it's all that have not talked of the 114 Shapiro has named, that is a bit scary.

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  • Miami is done son

    I mean finished

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    NoVaNoles

  • NoVaNoles said...

    Miami is done son

    I mean finished

    I think they are pretty much done regardless of the outcome of this.... that AD is just tanking money with no care in the world for actually fielding decent sports...

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  • USMC_Gator said...

    I think they are pretty much done regardless of the outcome of this.... that AD is just tanking money with no care in the world for actually fielding decent sports...

    True but Miami has won before under similar administrations

    You simply can't ignore how easy it would be for a solid staff to build a team down there and win in the ACC, or wherever really

    I just know the NCAA hates them and is ready to drop the bomb, Miami fans are truly delusional to these facts and actually think skipping two meaningless bowl games will make the NcAA happy

    It won't, and cleary hasn't for if this new development proves anything it proves that they are pissed off

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 11/21/2012 at 2:59 AM

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  • Doesn't seem like over-stepping. Seems like smart strategy to me. And if the players didn't take the benefits, they'll refute. Why wouldn't they? They only wouldn't talk to the NCAA if they did the deeds and don't want to lie about it for whatever reason or they don't want to come clean because they'd be fibbing on their school. The NCAA doesn't have legal authority and can't do anything to these player. If nothing happened, they should speak to protect their school.

    I think this will achieve exactly what the NCAA wants; and I think what they want is guidance on whether to believe Shapiro or not because they don't have enough tangible evidence and also probably find Shapiro dispicable. Given the responses so far, I think they'll choose to believe him. A hammer is going to come down eventually on the Canes.

    jamielawrence

  • This is interesting, I had thought they were trying to be very cooperative. The NCAA really takes issue with stonewalling, especially in the current system where schools self regulate. I don't think the USC sanctions would have been as bad if they would have just handled it.

    I wonder where Golden ends up.

    jmlives

  • My question is why is this clown on our board?

    Othello

  • Othello said...

    My question is why is this clown on our board?

    You best not be talking to me tony

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    NoVaNoles

  • I understand no one talking, but it's hard to believe by now they haven't found someone they wronged who is willing to talk like how David Stanley unraveled SMU

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    UFOWNS

  • If the bowl ban length is the number of years you have left then you can transfer freely.

    Example, sophomore player with a 3 year bowl ban can transfer. Freshman with a 3 year bowl ban cannot transfer

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  • Canes going to take one straight to the nuts!

    AMGator

  • NoleBrave03 said...

    We all knew former canes wouldn't talk. Well the NCAA is tired of the stonewalling and issued an ultimatum to the former players that says if you don't talk to us by Friday we will consider that an admission of guilt.

    Thanks for bringing this here man, I love it.

    Do you have a source??

    gator1776