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haha wow way to read my posts there bud. ive stated multiple times we didnt deserve to play for it if we couldnt lose to a team like NCSU.
im glad there are a few cool gators, jwren, DPgatoprs and secrocks2000, here who understand what im getting at. youd understand my point if you read through the whole thread chief
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well i expect him to campaign for FSU, its kind of his job but everyone knows it aint gonna happen. either way, the way things are done with the BCS still sucks. auburn in 04 when they went 13-0 and didnt get in, 07 LSU and last year are why the BCS is absolutely god awful and there is no defence for it
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haha wow way to read my posts there bud. ive stated multiple times we didnt deserve to play for it if we couldnt lose to a team like NCSU.
im glad there are a few cool gators, jwren, DPgatoprs and secrocks2000, here who understand what im getting at. youd understand my point if you read through the whole thread chief
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yes and no
weve got the talent to beat all those teams and i think we would have switched up the teams you lost to. i think wed have lost to LSU and beaten georgia. a hard schedule is good and bad. your players are seasoned and play better against tougher competition but can also get worn down faster. the games we have played crappy in were against the lesser teams which is counterintuitive. the players looked unfocussed and not into the game because the teams were pushovers. ball discipline and execution became sloppy. its worth noting that execution became remarkably better against miami and VT when they realized that they werent going to win if they didnt pick it up. our coaches cant seem to keep the guys up against inferior comp but can keep them motivated against decent teams. when you know you have a tough match every week it keeps the kids focussed more.
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BHAM GATOR said...
But when u play good teams (very loosely on good) like Clemson, you let them score 30+ points and let teams like Miami and VT keep it close and let a team like BC BEAT you is unacceptable. Florida is a 2nd year team w/ a new offensive scheme so growing pains are expected, but FSU is in year 5 under Jimbo. Motivation issues are supposed to be taken care of by now especially in the ACC.
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ummmm we annihilated BC
FSU is in year 3 under jimbo. offense is in year 5 although it is a bit different than where it started and team is in year 3
motivation is a tough thing when you have talented kids who just assume they will roll over the opposition, i think the ULL game is a good example and comes to mind for you guys.
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Except we BEAT ULL.. I can't recall a single game UF has lost against a team with vastly inferior talent.. I think I'd have to go all the way back to 2004 when we lost to Miss State and Zook was fired the following Monday.
Even in our terrible last two years, we beat the Vandy's, UK's, UT's, and even both bowl games (Ohio State and Penn State)
Jimbo has lost to NC State twice, UVA, Wake Forest.. Those teams are like the Vandy's and UK's for FSU.. Had FSU beaten Nc State, even by ONE point, Jimbo would atleast have some ground to speak out the way he is.
However, he's shown year after year that he CANNOT keep his team focused and he's rarely had them playing up to their potential.
Occasionally FSU will put together a good couple weeks in a row, then lose to a crap team. That is an indictment of your coaching staffs ability to take care of business.
They can recruit top classes every year and it won't matter if they can't get them to play up to their talent level, week after week. Its all about taking care of business against the good AND bad teams. Thats what championship teams and coaches do and thats what Jimbo absolutely has NOT done.
This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 11/15/2012 at 9:05 PM
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Except we BEAT ULL.. I can't recall a single game UF has lost against a team with vastly inferior talent.. I think I'd have to go all the way back to 2004 when we lost to Miss State and Zook was fired the following Monday.
Even in our terrible last two years, we beat the Vandy's, UK's, UT's, and even both bowl games (Ohio State and Penn State)
Jimbo has lost to NC State twice, UVA, Wake Forest.. Those teams are like the Vandy's and UK's for FSU.. Had FSU beaten Nc State, even by ONE point, Jimbo would atleast have some ground to speak out the way he is.
However, he's shown year after year that he CANNOT keep his team focused and he's rarely had them playing up to their potential.
Occasionally FSU will put together a good couple weeks in a row, then lose to a crap team. That is an indictment of your coaching staffs ability to take care of business.
They can recruit top classes every year and it won't matter if they can't get them to play up to their talent level, week after week. Its all about taking care of business against the good AND bad teams. Thats what championship teams and coaches do and thats what Jimbo absolutely has NOT done.
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i agree. its baffling how we can blow it against inferior teams. the loss to NC state in 2010 wasnt on Jimbo though. that one was on ty jones for not paying attention to what he was doing and running right into ponder's arm and knocking the ball out of his hand. coincidentally jones didnt play much for the rest of the year because of that.
i dont think your coaches had much to do with pulling the ULL game out. that one was all on the players coming up with the play at the end of the game.
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