Alligator Alley

all whining aside hes got a point. the computers do a terrible job of picking whos the best etc. the old eyeball test really was the best way. we still wouldnt be in it based on how garbage our schedule was but the rankings would be much more accurate. the old way was the best way. everyone played the bowl games and then the pollsters decided who won the MNC. we didnt have all the controversy we have nowadays.

id be fine with giving 60 or so head coaches votes as well as members of the media and letting them decide.

hell id take it a step further and demolish the bowl tie in system. rank the bowls on prestige and let them pick the matchups they want. would mean a lot better bowls and you dont end up with a 10win team from the ACC playing a 5th place pac10 team and a 8 win SEC playing a 8win Big ten team on new years day(auburn northwestern a couple years ago). just imagine the matchups that could be created using that system

Usually s good poster with good points
Not this one. U may be the best one loss team out there, but there is no excuse for loosing
And no way to justify having any chance at playing in the NC game.
Also blame ur conference for having a bad year. Except Clemson

Phillip, please clarify-

You really think margin of victory should count and strength of schedule shouldn't?

I don't blame him for saying it, he has to, but let's be serious here....

How do you consider how you play if strength of schedule should be thrown out?

SOS isnt thrown out. its looked at by voters and not by a computer. humans are more reliable than a computer. for example you guys would most likely be hurt because of the ULL game, razor thin win at home over a garbage team. the computer only sees that you win it, not how you win it. on the other hand you get leverage with voters for beating good teams by only 1. its a double edged sword. you get extra points with voters for going to college station and beating the aggies in a very hostile environment.

human voting wants to see you blow out trash teams like kentucky and Bowling green, and win at all cost against teams like LSU and georgia.

yeah dont agree with that. SOS is definately a factor, just not in the way its used currently, it carries too much weight and teams that arent really that good get more credit than they should.

in the end it doesnt matter. they wont do anything to determine the winner that makes any sense. the new playoff format is garbage as well. it needs to be at least 8 teams preferably 16 but thats a bit of a stretch for college athletes. 4 is still not enough in my book to determine a winner

cant tell this year. maybe maybe not. the defense probably but the offense i doubt it. im going on what i see on the surface. clemson scored 37 but had to use serious trickeration to do it. they had 1 trash TD with less than 3 mins left. and a halfback pass for a td. EJ was running into the endzone when he slid with a min left to just knee off the game. the score could have been different. half of clemsons scoring plays were ones theyd never used before and we had no film on. thats the sign of desperation

i am worried about playing you guys only because we havewnt played many tough teams. VTs DL played hard and beat on our OL, the rest of their team is garbage but their DL is legit. playing tough teams hardens up your players and playing a schedule like ours can shellshock them when they face someone nasty.

2 of the 6 computer poll creators have come out publicly against disallowing margin of victory in the computer polls (Sagarin and Massey) several others produce polls not used in the BCS that they claim to be more accurate which also use margin of victory. Here is what Sagarin has to say.
"In ELO_CHESS, only winning and losing matters; the score margin is of no consequence, which makes it very "politically correct". However it is less accurate in its predictions for upcoming games than is the PURE POINTS, in which the score margin is the only thing that matters. PURE POINTS is also known as PREDICTOR, BALLANTINE, RHEINGOLD, WHITE OWL and is the best single PREDICTOR of future games. The ELO_CHESS will be utilized by the Bowl Championship Series(BCS)."

We'll see next week what Vegas thinks but I have a feeling they won't be putting too much weight on the computer rankings (ie they won't create the line based on #3 UF at #17 FSU, if they did UF would likely be a 6-7 point favorite).

There is no perfect system in determining the best team in College Football. The best system IMO is a playoff system. But there is even ridicule about the NFL playoff system when a 8-8 Denver team makes it into the playoffs over a team with 9 or 10 wins. And how many teams should be in the playoff? 16? 8? 4?

I disagree with the eyeball test completely. I am a die hard Gator fan, and both of our recent National Championship appearances the Gators were expected to get BLOWN OUT by supposedly a MUCH better Offensive team. Well history wrote that story differently and that is why the SEC gets so much respect in the SOS conversation. Kind of hard to argue with 6 National Championships in a row... Go Gators!

Ayyyy shout out from a Nole haha yeah but u put a p in my name I fixed it for you ^^^