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why are they hating on Baily and Hearns?... they're both ranked low 3 stars but are highly ranked on all the other sites :/
If you mean Scout, there's little point in ever using their site for prospect rankings and ratings; I'm surprised they're not already defunct.
Hargreaves took over the UA game and won MVP, and those idiots dropped his ranking 2 spots, from #14 to #16 in their final player evals.
How come it never occurs to anyone that the other sites might be overrating them? Had to ask.
I've never seen Hearns.
But Bailey is extremely raw. He wasn't exactly a slam-dunk take for UF. Don't forget that.
When I saw him at the Gamecock showcase last summer, he was grouped with Demarcus Robinson, Braxton Berrios and a few other really good WRs. He simply did not have the route running or the ball skills of the others at that time. He wasn't a take for Spur-dog and Son. And S. Carolina's receivers haven't been terrible lately, so their evils aren't awful.
I'll say this, the guy is good in space.
But he needs some to improve an awful lot before he's ready to contribute in the SEC.
IMO, he'll be a guy that slowly works his way into the rotation.
Now, that's just my opinion. Given his ability in space and improvisational skills, he may be able to do things earlier than I think.
Time will. Good prospect. Three stars isn't bad.
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I know for a fact kt isn't the eigth best RB. And vh3 is a top 5 prospect
Not that I care about a prospect's (subjective) ranking in the first place, but I don't particularly have a problem with either of them being graded as 3* prospects.
Talents like Bailey are practically a dime a dozen (sub 6-footer with quick feet and good burst). What I do like about Bailey and what bodes well for his development (besides his toughness) is that he seems very "coachable" and has a high football IQ. As long as he takes to and retains what he's taught (and works hard), he could develop into a pretty solid slot/underneath receiver. At worst, he's a safe bet to return kicks/punts because of his feet/cutting ability/COD and open field vision. He's a solid 3* prospect for me.
Hearns on the other hand is a little underrated IMO, but not criminally so. He's a bit stiff, doesn't redirect particularly well, isn't the most athletic guy, and doesn't have a ton of range. But he's a big, physical LB with good instincts and incredible explosive power that can take on/shed offensive linemen and can tackle. He's at his best playing downhill between the tackles against the run, but can be exploited in coverage due to his lack of athleticism/speed/range. I like Hearns alot and think he's one of our more underrated commits but I understand why his ranking is what it is (especially when you factor in his past injuries). For me, he's a fringe 4* guy (high 3/low 4).
Droppin Cold Hard Facts up in here.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by tduhon07 18 months ago
Don't listen to any of this. Bailey is a 5*, son. Never forget it.
I agree with the Bailey evaluation. I hope/believe that he can come in and make a drastic impact on special teams like another undersized 3* player, Brandon James.
This season we beat LSU and snuck away from ULL based predominantly on special teams. I believe it is extremely important to recruit players that can make an impact in that facet of the game without being asked to produce on either side of the ball immediately. I think Bailey is one of those guys. If he drastically improves his ability to gain seperation through route running and can find his way on the field early than gravy.
Matt Elam is the reason we beat lsu
Anyone else think Bailey will be used in some wildcat packages, especially after Trey moves on?
"You're not a good guy, you go somewhere else. We'll play you. We'll beat you."
Exactly, agreed. It's not that every ranking or eval is nonsense; it's just that every single year there are enough that go against what every other analyst says that you know something is amiss over there... and that's just with UF prospects/commitments.
I read a lot of other team sites' recruiting forums, and the same things happen to them quite often with Scout. If 1 site disagrees with 4 or 5 others often enough, along with another dozen or so analysts/experts not attached to a site, it's no longer a coincidence... it's an inherent flaw.
Who has KT as the 8th best RB????
Hey, don't get me wrong .... Bailey can play.
I can totally see him doing things on special teams early. And hey, if the WRs continue to be below average, he may sneak his way in early.
I was just explaining why he's a 3*
Now I'm off to unfollow Keith on twitter.
Never listen to anything Scout has to say bc Vogt and Chad homer Simmons always bump Noles and Dawg commits. If Bailey would have committed to either he would be a 4* for sure. Best player on top 10 team in Fl yearly a 3*
This post was edited by Grantparkgator 18 months ago
Sorry for stating my opinion, of which I'm paid to do
You're not very good with sarcasm, huh, Keith?
Keith and the rest if the 247 editorial staff have an amazing work ethic and tremdous journalistic integrity. They cover the sport, teams and athletes objectively. Fans don't always like that but we are all lucky to. Access to them and the high level of interaction they have with us.
I guess not . ... I can dish it .... You'd think I could recognize it better.
I'm so used to getting yelled at on Twitter, I can't tell things apart now.
Be careful, Keith. That's a business model you're talking about.
Got him! +1
Sensitive, thy name is niebuhr
This post was edited by jgator311 18 months ago
Scout only gave Colin Kaepernick 2 stars and he looks like the First Coming of Johnny Manziel.
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