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There's something to be said for that level of consistency, even if he hasn't reached the upper-level of success yet (national title). Georgia has been pretty consistently competitive at the top of the SEC East since Richt took over.
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I'll also admit that part of my thinking on having Sumlin ahead of Muschamp is projecting down the road. Sumlin has a potential Heisman winner on his hands who he's got for at least another year. If Manziel sticks around for another two, that Texas A&M team is going to be really, really good the next two years...
That Oline won't be around another 2-3 years. So many QB's are exposed when they're no longer playing behind an all American line.
That's a good point. Sumlin also has a longer track record as a head coach as Muschamp. Just another factor for me.
I'll bet any amount of money that this year will be Johnny's best year of his career statistically. What he's done is unheard of just about anywhere, let alone the SEC.
Look, A&M took the SEC by storm with that style of play and that stud at QB. Now the elites like LSU/Bama/etc will have an entire year to study up on their tendencies and how to stop them. Auburn/Arky are down right now big time. That will change with new hires.
JFF will be great his whole time there, but it won't get easier for him. A&M loses their stud OL's, Swope, and some serious defensive talent. Next year won't be as good as this year imo.. Hell, they're going to go 10-2 regular seaosn with both losses coming by one score each.
The future is bright there and I think they'll continue to win, but I'm not seeing them passing Bama or LSU on a regular basis anytime real soon. I see them as a consistent 9-3 or 10-2 team for another couple years. Depending on how they build their defense and adjust a couple small things on offense, will determine if they can win titles sooner than later.
I do think they will fight for second or third in the west more often than not as long as Sumlin is there. They're a better program than Arky, Ole Miss, Miss State and right there with Auburn. Depending on how long Saban stays, and who Bama hires after him, they could eventually be one or two in the west on the regular.
1. Certainly Spurrier must be in the top 2 and I would put him first. As someone else pointed out a hall of fame ex-UND coach did not approach what Spurrier is doing at SoCar.
2. I would move Franklin up to at least 7th and maybe 6th.
3. I agree with the person who said it is hard to know where to put Pinkel right now. He came to the SEC without one of his better teams.
4. Chizik is way way too low. As point out, he had one great season, several creditable seasons and this season his team has been bad. So he should be around 7th or 8th.
Another way to do this is:
Sumlin, Mullin, Chizik, Muschamp, Franklin, Freeze, Pinkel
Tier 4 or gone:
Smith, Dooley, Phillips who I think belongs in Tier 3, but has been fired.
The same Sumlin that refused to make halftime adjustments and got outcoached on his home turf by Champ? I think he's up there, but right behind Champ IMO.
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If we gave miles as muschamp the exact same players and the exact same environment, there's no doubt who'd build the better program.
Miles is a terrible coach.
We don't agree often. But in this, we see eye to eye. Guy makes horrible in-game decisions.
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