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i come in peace gators. i know a lot of you guys live in the tampa area and have a pretty big Bucs following. seems that most Nole fans are Jax or Dolphins fans so i decided to hop over here. anyone wanna chat about the Bucs in this upcoming draft? who do you guys want us to draft and what do you think our needs are?
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We need corners and a pass rush badly. I really like out LB situation besides black. I like the guy from A&M, Rhodes, and Banks. I think Millner will be gone by our pick but if he drops Id say him. We also need another DT. I have no clue what the Buccs are gonna do this year but the offensive is great when freeman is playing good. Also cant wait for our line to get healthy Doug Martin is gonna have so many running lanes.
Need a pass rusher, but I believe cb is the #1 need for the bucs. I really hope Rhodes is not selected
i feel like its going to be banks or rhodes but i hope if thats the choice then we trade down some to around to the 16-20 range. im also hoping we double dip and grab a guy like trufant, poyer, or ryan in the 2nd round. we could go so many ways in the 1st depending on what we do in FA. if we get some corners i could see us going with sheldon richardson at DT or an even more out of the box pick is Lane johnson at OT to play RT and then replace Penn. we need a RT in the worst kind of way. all the guys we plugged in this year were underwhelming to say the least.
it looks like we are going to take a TE as well at some point. im hoping we wait til the 4th and grab a guy like gavin escobar from San diego state or ryan otten from san jose state. ive seen jordan reed linked to us and i truly hope we dont go that route. guy drops too many passes at key times and doesnt block well. the other two are much more complete guys. of course if we go with zack ertz in the 2nd ill be thrilled
I wouldnt mind the TE from ND in the second if we traded down and picked up a first and second and picked a corner later in the first. I have a feeling the Buccs are gonna move in this draft just not sure which way. If theres a guy they really want they will move for him like they did david last year.
Would love to see Demontre Moore fall to 13.
Yes, I'm sick and tired of drafting D Ends so high. But we still lack even a mediocre pass rush. If that can be corrected, this team could be dangerous. JMO.
i REALLY want sheldon richardson or werner/moore/montgomery/mingo any ofr those DE's/pass rushers would be cool wit me
dee milliner would make me so frickin pissed just glad he should be gone by then move up into the first again and get elam haha that would be awesome
good thing about pass rushers this yr theres so many i wouldnt mind the bucs grabbing bostic late to be the guy next to foster and david
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by TravisFLAx8 17 months ago
you can bet your ass we will be doing ALOT of moving on draft day. with 2 4ths weve got plenty to work with. Dominik used our 4th last year to move around and get martin and david, im sure he'll do it again.
heres my mock as of today with no trades and no FA
1st - Banks CB MSU/Xavier Rhodes CB FSU
2nd - Poyer CB Oregon State/Trufant CB Washington
3rd - Brennan Williams OT UNC/Menelik Watson OT FSU
4th - Phillip Thomas S Fresno State/DJ swearinger S SCAR
4th - Gavin Escobar TE SDSU/Ryan Otten TE SJSU
5th - Conner Vernon WR Duke
6th Lonnie Pryor FB FSU
7th - BPA. 7th is a throwaway round.
this path provides picks to address our key needs right now and provides alt picks if one of the players is off the board. we need 2 corners right now because weve got absolutely nothing there right now. We need a RT to replace the turnstiles we had there this year. none of the current guys are actual starters in my book, more of depth guys. the Free safety position needs to be addressed. ahmad black may or may not take over when ronde retires. even if he does we need depth. get a ballhawk like swearinger or thomas back there with a hitter like barron and our safeties will terrorize anyone entering the middle of the field. we need a TE and a slot receiver badly to help freeman work the intermediate middle of the field. escobar provides a large target weith good hands and blocking. vernon is one of the most underrated players in the country. he has skyhigh production on a bad team and runs excellent routes and catches everything thrown at him. finally we need a FB and someone as a change of pace to complement martin. pryor can run the ball very well and hes an outstanding blocker as well.
im tired of spending 1st and 2nd rounders on DL but i agree we have to do something. mccoy is finally coming into his own which is great. miller is OK but can definately be upgraded. i am hoping we take a corner with our first and then trade back into the 1st and grab someone like sharriff floyd if hes available.
i would be pissed if we grabbed elam just because hes more of a SS and weve already got barron. id love a guy like swearinger or phillip thomas, both are natural ballhawking free safetys but can hit. elam will always be a better hitter than cover guy.
im not sold on milliner and doubt he'll be there when we pick anyway. i think both rhodes and banks bring more to the table than he does anyway.
i will be really pissed if we take mingo. that dude has bust written all over him. he looks more like a 3-4 olb and just doesnt fit us.
if we somehow target a linebacker im betting schiano targets khaseem greene. played for rutgers and besides that hes a baller.
I like that you picked a first and second round corner because the Buccs ALWAYS do it haha. My feeling is that the Buccs will get another 2nd rounder. I know we need a RT but I dont think the Buccs draft one unless they HAVE to. I agree with free safety being adressed but from the guys this year I dont love any of the safties games(except Elam) haha. Hopefully they look to free agency to fill the free safety spot. I like Byrd from the Bills hes a ball hawk he would be a great get. As much as I wish they would draft Floyd I dont think thats gonna happen. If Moore falls I say take him if not trade down and pick up another draft pick and then get one of the corners. To me im indifferent wether we pick Rhodes or Banks. I think the Buccs will make a splash in free agency they have a ton of cap space wouldnt be surprised if this free agency is like last year. Also I believe the buccs are gonna release wright hes been a problem and the dude hasnt played all that great.
Also any chance the buccs draft Mingo and move him out to linebacker that would be awesome?
This post was edited by orlmagic14 17 months ago
sorry bro i disagree bennett aint coming back we need a pass rusher and hope ours turns in a monster season like others have lately a smith/ v miller/ c mathews
but sheldon is my dream pick guy would be a monster
claiborne suposed to comeback healthy right? and bowers did alot more then expected this yr 3 or 4 sacks he could be coming into his own and bout to breakout
dont sleep on them lsu DE's at OLB str8 pass rushers they could be von miller good at that shit imo
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TravisFLAx8 17 months ago
They're not taking a corner at 13. I'll write more tomorrow.
Goons belong in hockey.
shoulda got janoris last yr but oh well l david turned out to be a moster so im good
i would crap if we somehow got byrd in FA. i dont think buffalo lets him get away though.
if we do sign some good corners in FA i could see us going OT or taking zack ertz in the 2nd. anything is possible. like i said my mock is assuming no trades and FA. Free agency is the wildcard and will determine what we do in the draft.
i will be extremely pissed if we draft mingo. i have never liked his game and to be honest he gets a lot of hype for a guy who got only 7 sacks this season. hes built on speed but he definately cant play DE at that size in the NFL. using him as a SAM backer is a waste of a pick since hed be coming off the field when we go to a nickel formation.
i doubt we hit FA as hard as last year since we dont have near as much available money. weve also got to look ahead since weve got guys who will need to be resigned in the next year or two. michael bennett needs a new contract, theyree working on mike williams, foster will be due in 2 years, and then theres the big wildcard in Josh Freeman.
call me crazy but i wouldnt trade david for janoris at all. david is going to be a special player
Black comes off the field during Nickel situation also I believe so wouldnt be much different.
exactly but we didnt spend a 1st on black. to spend the 13th overall pick on a guy to play 2 downs is dumb as hell. plus we dont know if he can even play LB
i agree wityh UFFEESH that we wont be taking a corner at 13. i dont think we will be taking anyone at 13 because im betting we trade back and acquire picks and then trade back into the 1st and then trade into the 2nd again. at least i hope we do
Just a thought I dont really expect us to take him just saying if haha.
It would have been Doug for Janoris
He was gone when we picked David
We could have stayed and not moved up and drafted Jenkins
still would rather have martin as well. im happy with who we got in that draft. at face value jenkins was a risk we couldnt afford to take at the time. happy the kid got his life turned around but also glad we got the guys we did. we still arent to the point where we can take chances on troubled players on this team. weve got enough troublemakers with eric wright around. it looks to me like schiano only wants high character guys without any legal problems going on who hes taken thus far and who hes released from the team
This post was edited by phillip740il 17 months ago
We need corners...and badly. Everything else we aren't bad at...offense is pretty loaded but maybe another tackle. Defense...Olb, pass rush de, and maybe a dt but corners...need them so badly...I hope we grab two first two rounds st this point cause we are awful at that position.
Not going to go into too many specifics in a non-VIP post, but CB at 13 does not make sense in this draft. You'll see lots of CBs come off the board in rounds 2-4 and that's about where most of them should come. If they stay put, they'll go either DL, LB, or OT.
I think DT makes the most sense because I believe you can get a stud DT at that position. At that point, you may be getting the second DT off the board. There is a kid at DE who seems to be sliding for some folks, but I don't think he really has the "character" issues that McShay says he does. Don't know why McShay would put him with the Bucs if he thinks he has a character issue??!! That's not how the Bucs are drafting with Schiano running the show.
There's a kid at LB that I'm keeping an eye on and it's not Mingo. If he's there at 13, I think they nab him. He's been going high and mid in some drafts, but pairing him with Foster and David would make for a pretty damn good LB crew.
It wouldn't shock me to see the Bucs use that extra 4th to either maneuver somewhere in the second or play around with moving up from 13. Sliding down in the first doesn't make much sense to me, unless they fall in love with a kid that'll be available in the late first.
No one has mentioned a CB that Schiano already has a relationship with and I've already got him penciled in. He's not a first-rounder.
DE with "character issues" - sam montgomery?
LB - hopefully not Teo, jarvis jones?
the corner is logan ryan from rutgers. i like that kid alot.
Floyd at DT
please. do want. we need someone to help mccoy with the inside rush
Been trying to figure out how I would feel about Floyd in Tampa.
Are he and McCoy a good fit together? I guess Floyd could serve as a NT, with pretty good pass rush ability. They'd actually be pretty interchangeable.
What about Gholson at FS in FA?
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