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With NN going down last night with what seems to be a pretty significant injury, what is everyone's take on the 1AD rule? It seems as if Noel's injury has caused this issue to get talked about a lot more since last night. I personally think its garbage. I have heard a lot of people suggest the baseball draft rules, and I believe I personally would like the rule... Go strate to the league or three years of college. But if a kid chose to go to college and the same thing happened his sophomore year people would fuss that if he didn't have to stay three years it wouldn't have happened. Suggestions?
i prefer the baseball rule...the only issue is when the draft takes place...it could kill rosters...if you sign 3 players and 2 like where they are drafted...that team would be hurt......but i would like to see some way for the players to choose...and the NBA hold the line on the 3 and out...the NFL does a good job of that...
If nothin else I wish they would just do away with any rule and if someone is good enough to go pro out of highschool let them. It is crazy that you HAVE to go to college for one year. Just makes no sense and the only thing it helps is the NBA.
the should model it like college football and the nil... it is dumb to have kids go 1 and done. UK has become a factory for this and they will probably lose 4 of their freshman this year due to a weak draft. A lot of these kids should be able to just go straight to the league. I hate the way things are right now, especially because uk gets a lot of them even though its starting to catch up with them in a way
I like the baseball rule as well, but I'd be fine with it being a 2 year deal. Still gives guys like Nerlens, who are surefire top ten picks, the option to go to the draft or spend 2 years at college. Asking guys to stay 3 years for basketball would be a little much. I think that would push too many fringe players to the draft. But 2 years is a good number. Makes the college game much more exciting while helping to get rid of the false notion that most of these guys are really in it for an education. More credibility all around. Right now guys can do well in their first semester taking only 4 classes and making all C's. They can go to the first day of the spring semester and then never show up again. They keep their eligibility for the rest of the season and then jump to the NBA. At that point it's just a facade calling them student athletes. Not all one and done's do it that way, but I know of a few that handled it that way.
I know for a fact most of the UK players do that, have a bunch of buddies who go to UK and thats all they say is they have stupid majors barely show up to class the first semester and just get by and come spring they just do whatever they want... something has to be done its a disgrace, what happen to the pride of actually getting your degree?
So wait a rule enacted by the NBA and its players association through collective bargaining only has the affect of helping the NBA and its players? That's sort of the idea. The NFL's rule was challenged in court and Clarett lost. It's unlikely to be changed unless the NBAPA gives in. They gave in and allowed the 1 year out of high school rule after fighting that so it's possible a change could be coming but I wouldn't bet on it.
Trust fund babies do that too. The pride of getting your degree is internal not external. Revising the rules won't change how people feel about schoolwork. Durant didn't do that. He's actually finishing up his degree @ Texas. In fact a few years ago the Times did a story about early departures to the NBA going back and getting their degrees. 10% of the league was going back at that time including Westbrook, Durant some others. Durant said getting his degree was as important as getting drafted.
Remember the story about Vince Carter having to figure out college graduation and a playoff game. Then there's someone like Brandon Jennings who took the money in Europe instead of living in Tucson.
Making someone attend school for a defined period of time, whatever arbitrary number you assign, is not going to give someone pride in a degree.
If there is a positive in Noel's situation... And it isn't really a positive but maybe this will lead way to changes being made. I highly doubt it but just maybe.
The defense of it is to keep players who shouldn't be going straight to the NBA from fizzling out before they even get started and allowing them to mature in college and get surrounded by the right people right? What about allowing HSers to go in the lottery (no team is going to waste a lottery pick without really trying to help the kid through) and if not they have to go to college two(or three) years. You'd probably end up with teams reaching to high for HSers that shouldn't be lottery picks but atleast it keeps a Lenny Cooke from happening
It should absolutely be you either go straight or stay 3 yeara. It would improve both cbb and the nba. And unlike baseball, which has a huge draft, it's only a few of kids that would go straight and actually get drafted.
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In the NBA's case I do not like the rule at all. If they want to go strait the the pros let them. The NBA big wigs were just pissed because they were lazy with their job and kept picking players that didnt meet the hype. Also I do t believe we should put a min on how long they should stay ie two or three years. That will send more players to play over seas.
You don't have to go to school. Brandon Jennings played 1 year in Europe after High School, made some money, then I believe was a lottery pick for the Bucks.
I am surprised more HS kids don't look at that option.
Jeremy Tyler did, then had a hell of a year in Israel. Jennings' time in Italy wasn't exactly sunshine and lollipops, either.
Kids don't do this because it's still way easier and more fun to live in America than in a foreign country.
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I prefer basketball players should have to stay three years just like baseball and football players do.
Spent a year in Italy got 1 mil from the team and 2 mil from Under Armour. That can buy you some nice lollipops.
This post was edited by JJD2 17 months ago
Dumb move for the top guys to go overseas. Your marketability is so much higher once you turn pro if you play college basketball.
This post was edited by gatorphi 17 months ago
I like the one and done rule, it makes the games more exciting. Teams can compete more often now because they can get a high caliber player on their roster.
Plus its not like every school has a bunch of one and done guys either, Kentucky and UCLA are some of the few, but for the most part guys are staying 2-3 years anyway.
The other problem is, the NBA is only a 2 round draft, you have too many guys going pro and a lot of guys will go undrafted.
If a high school kids goes to college and it shows he's not an elite player yet, he has a chance to get an education.
You're sort of forcing the kid to prove he is NBA talent, and not based on his high school play.
Once a kid goes pro he can't go back and play college ball, this way you at least expose kids and they can get a test of where they really stack up.
You get a kid who was a 5* all american coming out of high school, force him into college and say he struggles to be an elite talent right out the gate. He can say you know what im not ready for the NBA, let me develop my talent here and possibly get a degree.
If he goes straight to the pro's, he can never get a scholarship to a university.
I like the one and done rule myself.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by CLF4L 17 months ago
The baseball rule does not work exactly as you explained it. It works the following way:
1. Drafted out of high school
2. Go to a 2 year college or go to a 4 year college then transfer to a 2 year college and be drafted after your Soph season.
3. Drafted after your JR season.
4. Drafted after your SR season.
So the baseball rule means players can be drafted after high school and all but one season in college. To me it is a huge reason why college baseball has not caught on like football and basketball. So many player come and go every year that it can be hard to develop a rooting interest in a team.
Three year min. The NBA has become a shell of itself from when i was growing up. These guys go to the NBA at 19 and they simply aren't developed and its ruining college and pro basketball. Compare the big men...hakeem, ewing, Robinson, Charles, rodman, shaq who went to college to those that didn't this generation...its horrible. The NBA by doing this straight from high school to one and done is ruining talent development. College is where you learn to win as a team and learn the fundamentals. Players like dwight who should have been as good as any big man in the 90s simply isn't because he didnt develop proper habits offensively in college.
Sure kobe and lebron worked...of course..they are elite athletes though.
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