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Reading the Post today and I stumbled across this article. I don't recall hearing about these events before now, but after doing some more reading, I've come away pretty disturbed by ND's investigations into them. Pretty disconcerting on the whole:
Just terrible. Unfortunately, its not shocking. You'd think the Catholic Church would learn.
Yeah, high and mighty NotreDame. Jerks.
Gunga galunga...gunga -- gunga galunga
Lets not forget the kid who fell from a tower to his death filming their practice.
Wow! Welp, as much as it pains me ... I'm rooting for Bammer now.
Look at them deflecting on tBB
i can't uv for some reason tonight but if i could
Crazy that this hasnt gotten any attention.... Oh yeah wait... Chicago and New York can sweep that sort of stuff under the rug.
Beatings will continue until morale improves
This is exactly what's wrong with a social-media driven society. People are quick to take any allegations they might hear as fact (not even considering the credibility of the info), with complete disregard of how it affects the defendant's reputation. Our due process rights no longer exist.
Can someone tell me how Louis Nix qualified at Notre Dame? All I ever hear about is how they don't lower admission standards for football players.
What does social media have to do with improperly investigated rape allegations and victim blaming on the part of ND? The alleged perpetrators haven't even been named here. The facts are that accusations were levied, the University was reluctant to investigate, and only brought the accused in for questioning after the supposed victim killed herself. Why are you crying about due process when no formal charges were filed by University law enforcement? Due process doesn't protect you from public opinion, if that's what your arguing for. They did however, change their investigate procedures, but only at the threat of being stripped of federal funds. Meanwhile, the supposed victim is dead and her story will never be heard. Priorities...
Let's not act like ND is alone in sweeping these types of things under the rug for football players or other athletes.
I know someone from my UF days that was assaulted by a football player. Kid didn't miss a quarter of playing time let alone get arrested/charged/convicted.
Such a stupid post -- the only person who didn't get due process in this case isthe alleged victim. The actions of the ND police and administration speak volumes here as to where their prioritiea are and that they had zero interest in due process and properly finding out the truth.
I agree with everything you said here, for the most part. My post was more for those who jump to conclusions about the players themselves. I had already seen this article shared countless times on Facebook and Twitter with comments like "Who has the Convicts now?". "Notre Dame football is disgusting", etc. Due process does not protect you from public opinion, but if you think public opinion has no bearing on what a jury might think, I have no business discussing this with you. This is supposed to be a country where you are innocent until proven guilty. As long as social media exists, and people share / rally around whatever issue they feel "impassioned" about (for about a day mind you), we take away that element.
I'm sure today's social media makes jury selection more difficult, but there are plenty of people out there who haven't a clue what's going on outside their own little bubble, so I wouldn't worry about the prospects of an impartial jury; one that possesses critical thinking skills could be a problem though. But at any rate, that has no bearing on this case, because no charges were filed. Had these incidents and the others reported been timely and properly investigated and the accused had their day in court, the truth could have been found out instead of leaving it up to the court of public opinion. As I said, the issue of priority in this instance ought to be the seeming institutional neglect and complicity in whitewashing on the part of ND
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