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Here's a few positives... No true road games in NCAA tourney. Will Y coming back. These last 5 SEC games now mean something...we have to fight to the finish. We will NOT lose at the O'Dome!
Also just wondering... Why didn't Michael Frazier II play in the 2nd half? He had 10 points in the first half!
The refs were so horrible as to be incompetent, but both teams were on the wrong end of a lot of calls. I agree that the PY travel was a key play, but if we don't miss the front end of all three 2nd half one-and-ones, it never would have been.
On a related note, I wish the TV commentators would be a little more open about criticizing the officials when they are making a lot of bad calls.
Billy the Kid, age 48,
5 SEC Championships,
2 National Championships...
That was the correct call, the Mizzou player had possession and then fell. That's a travel in any level. Patric as you could see on the replay did not have possession at any time during the fall which is why the baseline official didn't call it. How the trail official who couldn't see the ball makes that call... LATE. the refs were atrocious and aren't why we lost but that call was embarrassing.
He gave up even more than 10 on the other end.
playing in Lexington the 1st 2 rounds may feel like road games. And any of the regional sites, if we make it, could have a local team as our opponent.
I think we need to keep things in perspective here. Tough loss, but on the road. Poor night in FT shooting, Murphy was cold and nearly got his head pulled off. Wilbekin had a rough night, and we got tired. That doesn't include a lot of the odd loose ball situations in the fist half that just seemed to fall the tigers way, even after a great defensive effort.
It happens, we're still in great shape. We should get more creative in our offense at the close of games. I liked the set up to the last shot. You can't have a better shot with seconds left.
I agree....I penciled this one in as a loss last week.....we will be fine...no major issues, just small things needing tweaking...
agree completely keith.
i think it might have something to do with not having a "go-to" guy. we rarely need one, but this team doesnt have that guy that when it gets down to the home stretch you say....
theres no question that the ball will be in this guy's hands.
I would be curious to see what Pitini or Boeheim or izzo or Coach K's records are in close games. I bet you it is not a lot different. Big surprise- you are just as likely to lose a close game as win. Is Izzo a bad coach because they lost to Indiana by less than 5 at home? News flash- Missouri is undefeated at home and have lost only 4 over a several year period. Prior to Bower's injury they were a top 10 team. UF missed a ton of wide open 3s they normally hit, particularly Murphy. Young also had a poor game -3 rebounds is very poor, but Murphy was no better. People are making too much of this loss.
I posted these numbers a while back and Donovan was actually indeed significantly lower than almost every other coach he's talked about in the same breath with.
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Here are the numbers from that thread two months ago:
Mark Few: 60-30 (66.7%)
Jim Boeheim: 188-110 (63.1%)
Jim Calhoun: 158-108 (59.4%)
Kevin Stallings: 94-65 (59.1%)
Bo Ryan: 66-48 (57.9%)
John Calipari: 78-59 (56.9%)
Bill Self: 78-59 (56.9%)
John Thompson III: 54-41 (56.8%)
Roy Williams: 90-72 (55.6%)
Thad Matta: 48-39 (55.2%)
Mike Krzyzewski: 136-111 (55.1%)
John Beilein: 108-91 (54.3%)
Tom Izzo: 72-61 (54.1%)
Mark Few: 35-32 (52.2%)
Bob Huggins: 106-99 (51.7%)
Buzz Williams: 28-27 (50.9%)
Rick Pitino: 92-90 (50.5%)
Tom Crean: 55-54 (50.5%)
Rick Barnes: 107-109 (49.5%)
Billy Donovan: 67-75 (47.2%)
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I'm not mad or upset that we lost. When the schedule came out I thought we may lose this game. I'm more upset over the way we lost...again. It's frustrating. Up 13 with 10 minutes to go we must win. Period!
Moving forward, I think we are fine. However, being a former player, shit like this creeps in your head. We need to get over this, or just hope like hell we blow everyone out, which would be fine with me and my liver!
craziness...i notice he's close to his mentor though...
Kansas got a tough double OT road win vs Oklahoma State last night. Do you guys think we would have won that game??
Kansas made 1 FG in 2 OT periods and Oklahoma St's best player fouled out midway through the second half. Take Phil Pressey out of the equation Tues night and I think we win. Kansas struggled from the FT line just as we did but again, Ok St's best player was on the bench. Pressey crushed us towards the end.
As for our loss the other night I am not bothered by it that much. It was a true road game in a tough environment and one of only 3 games this year where we have really been tested. I would much rather learn from a february mistake then make it in march. I understand where the concern is after back-to-back elite 8 meltdowns and us failing to pull out all 3 close ones this season. I'm just happy the team experienced that kind of situation so they can get better. Get better at late game FTs when your legs are running on fumes, get better at late game decisions when you're prone to mental lapses, and ultimately find that killer instinct to finish off the competition.
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No shit, Phil Pressley is their best player... Of course we would win without him on the floor.. No excuses for why we continue to drop games with big leads. It needs to be fixed, I have confidence in Billy to make it work.
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The one game I will never forget is the Creighton game in the tournament back when I was in college. It was some OT game that we just couldn't seem to win and everyone watching in the Reitz Union had this feeling we were going to lose... sure enough, Orien Green screws up on a 5-second inbounds and we end up losing.
F'n Kyle Korver man.....
I agree with you but KB was asking if we would win that game if we were in Kansas's spot and OK St lost Marcus Smart who is not only their best player but a projected top pick in the draft and much better than Pressey. So yeah, I think we'd win that game.
As for the lead I agree with you guys it needs to be fixed but my only issue is that lead barely lasted and was cut to 7 then 5 in no time at all. It wasn't like we held a 10+ pt lead for 5+ minutes we hit our stride and then immediately threw it away. After that the game was blow for blow and its tough to win that type of game on the road. I'm not trying to make excuses because we let the game get closer than it shouldve been in the first half as well. When it comes down to it our team goes through periods where they play like shit. It has happened multiple times in games where we have already put the other team away and I knew then that it would be a problem. If we are up on Mizzou by 20 it wouldn't have mattered and thats what they team is use to dealing with. They need to learn to play mentally smart basketball for 40 minutes. I think we are just seeing the results of being able to play sloppy and not suffering any consequences. Lets hope we can fix this cause I think we are going to be in more close games than not down the stretch
That's a good point.
Technically, it was correct, but officials haven't been making that fall down call for years, at least not unless the player then moves on the floor. It was probably a makeup for the horrible call on Young.
I agree with you
Sometimes you have to look deeper at the numbers. Billy was 3-10 in these type of games his first two years at UF, when he had no players and no team. And how much of Kevin Stallings' numbers came before Vandy, or Jim Calhoun when he was at Northeastern? And if Billy's teams played in the West Coast Conference like MArk Few, he's probably have better numbers. No making excuses for Billy, but there is sometimes more to the numbers.
Still, we're talking about a pretty sizeable sample here.
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