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but that traveling call on PY was AWFUL....he never even had possession of the ball, and the ref from across the court with no view of play calls it....then Missou hits a 3 and that was basically the turning point
Yeah but they gave it back to UF with the equally bad travel call on the offensive rebound by Missouri in the last minute of the game.
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The ref who called it was out of position and ot was out of his zone
We just cant close road games this year. when its close our team doesnt respond well. it seems we collapse down the stretch and Young numbers didnt look good at all
The refs stunk all game. Don't know who is worse PAC 12 football refs or SEC basketball refs.
Oh and the "charge" on Rosario down the stretch that negated a layup and should have been a 3pt play was awful too...Pressey slid over late and was nowhere near in position
UF just hasn't been good in close games in a few years. That's the real issue.
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I dunno, Pats body didnt move he merely flicked his hands to pass the ball. The mizzou player moved a little
Yup we can go on and on. Like Pressey pushing SW into the gator bench for the loose ball leading to a fast break score.
The calls were bad on both sides. Gators haven't pulled out a close game this season and does anyone think this is going to change when the heat is turned up in the NCAA tournament? I can easily see our Gators losing a game just like this when a team is close and applies the "d". Until I see them win a tight game this year I don't have any real expectations of them making a deep run in the tourney. Especially when the best option we have is Boynton taking deep threes for us down the stretch.
Neither were travels, but the Mizzou offensive rebound should've been a jump ball with the possession arrow going to UF, so not quite the same.
Define a few years. We won an insane amount of close games in 2010. People just remember the Butler game.
Refs will be refs and unless u play a virtually flawless game it's hard to beat good teams on their home court. Yea we get calls that maybe shouldn't go our way sometimes at home, but We haven't gotten any calls our way at the end of close games. I hate "home court advantage" in general. Yea the fans make a small impact at home but it doesn't make a team that much better. We've got to start having a sense of urgency when a team gets within 5-10 points rather than when they take the lead. And our shot selection has to get better down the stretch. We gotta start making our free throws, they played a part in the loss tonight. All of this is fixable, but we need to fix it now or it could affect us come tournament time
You gotta figure that if Boynton continues to take these crazy late game shots, and it might not be this way but it seems like a good dozen in his career... That eventually one will fall. Maybe it will be at the most perfect time of his career in the closing minutes of the Elite 8 with a chance at a Final 4. You all know just as good and well as I do that Kenny Boynton is taking that shot... No question.
Good point ... so let's say, since the Butler game.
Brockway has some insane stat about Billy being something like 25 or 30 games under .500 in super close games while at UF. About the only thing you could say he hasn't kicked tail at.
Another way of looking at it .... If you win close games all year it typically catches up with you.
Perhaps it works in reverse, too.
One would think the law of averages would even things out.
But the question then is, why is UF losing these close ones ... Arizonas and Mizzzou games (and really going back to Butler) ... all should have been won. Something seems to be missing down the stretch in those close games. Something. Not sure what it is.
Billy's got a couple weeks to figure it out.
Not having Will hurts. If the game is close, he's good for D and boards .. but perhaps not scoring. So the same issues might persist.
This is a good team. You'd have to think they'll get some of this cleaned up.
I really do think the lack of good free throw shooting by our post players (besides Murphy) makes BIlly hesitant to just throw it to the post and win it there. At the same times, I do feel Erv and KB may have just ignored what Billy drew up. We've taken way too many deep threes in the closing seconds of games.
I remember the 04ers winning close games. Calathes had a lot of game winners. This indicates to me that it isn't the plays Billy is calling up, but just the make up of our team in recent years.
I agree with you on that one. It was pretty embarrassing for the official that the broadcast team were patting Rosario on the back for a great play as they called that charge.
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To me, the SEC is the worst in both football and basketball.
One of the better posts I've seen on here. I think it's a combo of a few things:
- Nerves - we don't play in these games very much so you can actually see us get flustered.
- Free Throws - most of these losses had some awful free throw shooting down the stretch.
- Out-of-Bounds Situations - Billy's real weakness...we actually caught a break tonight on a few awful inbounds plays. But in previous games, we have a ton of trouble getting the ball in bounds.
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To me, this was the turning point in the game. This had a very similar feel to the Arizona game. We'd start to go on a run and then have a couple questionable calls go against us and they'd be right back in it. This was a terrible call and there are a long list of others, aside from PY getting mauled inside all game. When the officials allow other teams to ride our guards on the perimeter and hound us inside while putting PY on the bench with foul trouble we are going to lose, and its been blatantly obvious in at least 3 of our losses this year from what I recall.
Aside from that, our decision making as a team has to improve. SW has to make better decisions running the point, Boynton's shot selection has to improve, Murphy's lackadaisical passing has to improve, Young's post up positioning and not fumbling the ball away has to improve etc. We turn to ball over way too much for such an upperclassmen heavy team. Boynton has been way too inconsistent shooting the ball this year and needs to drive to the rim more. Rosario seems to be a 1 half wonder in terms of scoring. Wilbekin looks like an all-american some games and completely lost in others. I like the boost Frazier and Prather have provided off the bench as of late, but we have got to get more out of our starting 3 guards on O. Most of that falls on the shoulders of Boynton and his stroke just hasn't been there this season. PY needs more touches down low too. We just seem to get flustered and out of control at times which shouldn't be happening with such an experienced group. Hope they get it figured out and put it all together at once because all the pieces are there to make a deep tourney run
This team is 100% guard oriented that rarely, if ever, looks for Young or Murphy in the post. Young has developed a decent back to the basket game, if Billy doesnt force the guards to play more inside-out this team will not make a deep tournament run unless they get a #1 seed and an easier path to the Final Four. The success Horford and Noah had at UF as post players has been dimished, in my eyes at least, by the recent guard oriented teams Billy has had and has probably contributed to the inability to recruit a true C/PF type (Walker will hopefully change that).
That's it basically in a nutshell Keith. Gotta call an ace an ace. Gators look like they lose their composure in closely contested games.
Refs didn't lose the game for us. Also notice the nbr. of missed FT's once again!! Those are gimme pts we leave on the table!
I think a big issue with this is that while Noah and Horford had great hands and were strong passing the ball Pat has butter fingers and is sub par at passing the ball out of the post. Murphy is used more on offense in a inside-out kind of fashion where he typically ends up with a 3pt look or a baseline turn-around jumper. He does spend sometime in the post but he will get more shots spotting up outside and stretching the defense. Jo and Al were just far superior post players as far as all around game goes. Thats why they are NBA All Stars with max deals
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