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trumpet solo is oh so nice
those squad up mixtapes were tough
stillmatic was crazy
boosie/webbie was killin it
i used to drive from orlando to grambling listening to all that
scrape the sides up...
That Weezy freestyle, forgot the name, but it went "I moved it an eighth to a slab, from a slab to quarter, from a quarter to half, from a half to a whole one". That was my s__t. That one and the freestyle off the Mya/Jay-Z beat. Carolina Blue.
Peanut and Kid Kid and all them used ride.
Question for you guys. I am a guy that was born in NY, raised in NJ and now live in Philly, so I might have that Northeast bias, but aside from a few select Southern acts, like a Scarface, or Outkast or even Ludacris, do you guys really think that southern rap can even compare with the NY rap that I mentioned?
Don't get me wrong, when i was in Gainesville, i loved going to the Loft or whereever, and hearing Mystical, Juvenile, and all that older Cash Money stuff -- but like Wayne's Squad Up mixtapes? Lil Boosie and Webbie? I also get that the trap beats are fun to listen to and I get the "crunk" aspect of it...but do you guys consider those albums and songs "classics"?
not trying to be disrespecful at all either...just curious to have a southerner's point of view.
Thats, "Who Wanna F wit' me, tell ' em Im waitin' for 'em."
I talk to my female friend about this all the time. We argue about once a week. No disrespect, man, but outside of a few artists, I can't stand NY/NE music. Idk know what it is but I'll listen to TDD 10/10 over Joe Budden and SlaughterHouse.
1) Beat gotta bang
2) The Hook gotta ride
I dont take it as any type of disrespect, and I honestly dont listen to that many current NY artists, and the ones that are out there now are taking a southen sound like French, Meek (although from Philly)....
I was referring more to back in its heyday, when the Roc was poppin, Ruff Ryders, Red and Meth, Wu, Nas, even Lox, Dipset and G-Unit, etc. To me, I just can't f with Boosie, Webbie, etc....
I appreciate the other response above too which said they go with the beat and hook before lyrics....honest response, and that's a difference between NY and southern rap
IMO on the south vs north
1) Beat gotta bang - south
2) The Hook gotta ride - south
3) Lyrics - up north
I respect lyrics. But, thats something different.
To your point, that 90's-early 2000's east coast music was the truth. Everything you listed was stuff I've listened to.
I played the sh.t outta State Property/Dipset (Juelz mainly), that Memph Bleek/TI/Trick joint (Round Here), anything with Kiss, etc. Ruff Ryders put outta tons of good music. One of my fav all time songs: The Lox's "Go Head."
I agree that the old East coast scene was dope, but I still was bumping 8ball/MJG, Trick, JT Money, Hotboy$ etc a lot more.
But, my preference now is that ATL music. Rappers have taken punchlines too far. If you gotta think that hard to try and wow somebody with a line, save it. Its played out.
I listened to and loved all those guys minus Dipset and G-Unit. Boosie been out for a minute but he didn't get hot until Webbie blew up with "Gimme That P_ssy" so I wouldn't include them.
When all those guys you mentioned were hot, we had The Hot Boyz, No Limit, Paster Troy, Trick and Slip-N-Slide, Fresh and Baby, Luda, Face, Swisha House, Souljah Slim (one of the greatest), Kast and Goodie Mob and the Dungeon Family.
We were hot down here. I'll give the North the edge on lyrics. Y'all be spitting. But we make good music down here. And I'd take my people everytime.
North artists I enjoy:
One thing my homegirl has put me up on is battle rapping. I like that style of rapping from the northern cats. That stuff is pretty cool.
Round Here was hot. I remember that joint. And that Cam'ron "Oh Boy".
Can't believe I left off JT and 8ball/MJG.
"That p:ssy throwback... and u know that."
Slim was just about to blow up too.
On another note, Ive been called a Weezy hater plenty. But, when he hit the mixtape scene + Carter 1, everybody in the gm was jocking his style.
I think what made me start distancing myself from him, was I felt like everybody started using his style.
Appreciate the responses. And its funny, when I came back from Florida over the summers, and put some of my friends onto Luda, Mystical, Trcik, the whole Cash Money with Baby, Wayne, Juvie, BG, Fresh, etc....I was reppin hard for the South.
Back in those days though, the south got no play on NY radio like Hot97. No Limit, Cash Money, Outkast, Trick Daddy were kind of the first. So as far as 8Ball & MJG, JT Money, Pastor Troy, etc. unless it was a big song, like JT's Who Dat ---we just didnt hear em.
Now its the complete opposite...you can't listen to NY radio without it being bombarded with Wayne, Ross, 2Chainz, etc....and the only Northeast rappers that get any airplay have a southern sound or take the sourthern formula....French, Asap, Meek.
Now a days, NYers got skills like a Papoose or Red Cafe or Maino....but they are so concerned with "bringing NY back," that its overkill, and they can't make it work commercially. Aside form the legends like Jay and Nas, the only NYer that can do that right now while staying true to his NY roots is Fabolous.
Webbie caught my attention when I first heard that, Do it big song.
Then when I heard that, Money, Cars, Clothes, I was locked in.
I dont look at it as North vs South thing anymore.
Basically its ATL vs everybody, imo. Thats where every rapper is turning to for production.
Back then you had:
Rockwilder, Timbaland, Swizz, Just Blaze, Premier, The Alchemist etc., running the gm. The only big southern influence was Organized Noize pretty much. That led to Lil Jon's crunk music.
Now you got Lex Luger, Southside, Fatboi, Drumma boy, Shawty Redd, Zaytoven, Bangladesh, Polo, etc.
Guess it's just me.
Glad you brought up 8Ball/MJG. Loved their stuff. As for Boosie/Webbie/Fox, "wipe me down" was a killer one!
Atl has had the rap game for a min and I dont think its leaving there anytime soon... im waiting for the west coast swing but i dont think its going to happen.
NY rappers have fell off..
i f with uncle murda but he will never make it big time
I like Charlie Clips and Murda Mook
Have u watched the old smack dvd with the mook battles?
Nah, I just saw the Mook v Solomon battle. Should I?
murda mook vs party arty - one of my all time fav
Vs jae millz
Vs serious jones
vs loaded lux
G sh*t i used to battle in hs.. i used mook and party arty bars in every battle only my boys knew lol
i still have hoes come up to me to this day and say damn I thought you would be a big time rapper by now..lol
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Matt Elam just tweeted lyrics from that Drake song i posted...... dope!
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