Nation taking notice of Wilbekin

Glad he's getting the pub and glad you wrote a piece on him but have to take issue with one thing in your column. Myself and others knew we would never win a championship of any kind with Erv as the PG and thought he was a liability on the team. Loved his contributions as a scorer but really disliked having him at the point, both on O and on D and as leader. Thought Boynton or Scottie would be a definite upgrade at position

I don't have time for it, but she makes it work.

Except we did win a championship with Erv.

I guess he means SEC Championship?

Scottie is that you? LOL

No Scottie's game has really made the move here in the last two or three weeks. I wasn't convinced before but I'm starting to be. It's also worth mentioning that Scottie may have been here earlier in the season had he not gotten himself in the doghouse. May have slowed his game down for a few weeks at the beginning of the season. Glad he's taking the next big step, it has really changed our team into an elite team.

I should've corrected my post. Was definitely talking tournament play, both SEC and NCAA. It was a shared title, no?

I thought our back-to-back great 8 runs were a blast and both years we were extremely close to final four appearances. I think the reasons we didn't make it in and the reasons we didn't win SEC tournament is directly related to our PG.

Say what you want about Erv.

And there is absolutely no doubt that he was a defensive liability at times.

But he made his damn free throws late in games.

Reminded me of Taurean Green.

Money from the line late.

Well, we didn't get to a final four, so that kinda kills that argument. Every loss can be deemed a "team loss" , but since these games were one and two years ago, unless we are watching film, it is impossible to go into blame with any validity. It is my opinion with Erv at the point we were never going to win a tournament championship. I was regretfully right and you ended up being wrong. I think Scottie can. We shall see.

I have some fond memories of Erv and really liked the kid. Any one at that size that wins NYC's POY has got my respect. My fondest is the bomb vs UGA to send to OT in 2010 and then win the game. His range and nutsack were incredible, it is just my opinion he was not a good PG and played there cause we had no one else.

And I wasn't the only one that also had frustrations with him at point. Our head coach repeatedly expressed the same frustrations both publically and privately. Not Erv's fault. He was playing out of position.

Eh, you are arguing we were incapable of getting to the final four with Erv was PG. I think that's wrong. There is too much variance in cbb to use the elite 8 losses as proof of that. If Beal makes the easy layup and we go to the final four last year, that doesn't suddenly make Erv a better PG.

No, that would be you that is arguing. I stated what was my prior opinion which turned into fact. Your bringing up hypotheticals which is in its nature argumentative. I don't find that kind of conversation all that appealing so I'll bow out and let you continue that particular sort of time-wasting with someone else. Arguing hypothetical sports scenarios isn't my thing.

Mind if I jump in here, you are saying you do not want to argue hypothetical points is odd since you just made a hypothetical point in your previous post. Your idea of us not being able to win a championship with walker doesn't make it a right point because we didn't win. It is not a fact, you can't just 'decide' it is because your opinion is right. Do you still think Boyton would be better at point than Walker? Well he isn't playing point guard any more so I guess that is wrong because it was your prior opinion and hasn't turned into a fact.

Defining results in one and done tournament playoffs as fact is a bit off. The result of these games are just one of many different hypothetical opinions. Your fact is just a hypothetical that actually happened but, like Jonas says, there is too much variance in college basketball. Hell George Mason made it to the final four in 06, does that make it a fact that they are better than the 60 other teams that didn't make it?

If you want to say there was a less of a probability to win because you didn't like Walker's decision making and inability to be an elite defender then I don't think many will disagree there. You out right say you knew the Gators wouldn't win one, state it is a fact, then have someone disagree and then act as if you are too big to have a discussion. Just a bit pompous in my opinion.

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